I need to put some order with the photos I take and I receive with my android phone. Just now I use Nextcloud sync client to upload and Photo/Memories Nextcloud Apps to manage photos.

However, I am not very happy with this setup because of the lack of one Android Application for photos and, thus, the photo gallery of my phone is totally different to the Photo/Memories timeline. And photos are not deleted from my mobile phone when I delete them in Photo/Memories. Which selfhosted photo manager do you think is better to backup and manage photos in sync with the phone?

A second question, is it better to manage the photo gallery with a folder structure or with the album functionality of the Photo application? Which is the best interoperable solution? If I use albums in Memories then I can export those albums to Immich, Librephotos… ? Or I would have to create all the albums again after the export?

This is a great question. The photo ecosystem is one where I haven’t found a FOSS soln that hits all the marks of subscription services. I would focus on whatever helps you search.

I do feel like if files have accurate dates in the file system and in metadata, then folders based on event make sense.

However subscription photo services are very good at automatically sorting - these dates are holidays so these pictures are probably for that holiday. Your home location is here, these pictures are over there so this must be your trip to there. These pictures have these people or animals, so these pictures are about them.

With that comes seamless integration across devices - a picture taken at time now can be seen on a tv or laptop at time +x. Etc.

I have left the FOSS photo world but am definitely interested to see where it is. With digital photography finding pictures is the real trick. using folders like a tag hierarchy at least gets you in the ball park imo. But I have no practical knowledge any more.

sounds like to much work. I just use the privacy-oriented photo backup solution ente. (And, because I’m an android user – plus having multiple backups – I also use Google Photos)

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Google Photos is a non-starter for me as a backup solution because they scan the actual content of them. No thanks. I know it’s convenient to search for, say, “all photos with my nephew little Richie in them,” but it’s not worth giving them more information about me than they already do.

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Well, Google Photos shouldn’t be considered a “backup” solution to begin with. Never mind that both Google and Apple scan the content in their respective services, but there’s just no guarantee that they don’t modify the data on cloud. “Oooh guys, we just invented a revolutionary new photo compression algorithm! Also hosting data is kinda expensive! So pay up if you want your originals.” …and there’s occasional reports that these services just straight up corrupted some old files while no one was looking at them. Good going.

I just treat my Android phone like any other camera I own and use. Copy the files from phone to PC and from there to my NAS, and I use ACDSee’s DAM functionality.

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ACDSee’s DAM functionality?

Edit: Digital Assets Management. It also says that it does facial recognition. Does it contact some online service “in the cloud” or is it all offline?

to be fair, all cloud services scan. It’s unfortunately necessary to detect CSAM to stop people from spreading it.

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I really doubt this. If I lose the private key of this one service I use, my information is lost and unrecoverable - unless they put a backdoor in it.

But if it is true, I’d be okay with this - provided that it is only use to detect abuse images and nothing else.

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