So I just added a TP-Link switch (TL-SG3428X) and access point (EAP670) to my network, using OPNSense for routing, and was previously using a TP-Link SX-3008F switch as an aggregate (which I no longer need). I’m still within the return window for the new switch and access point, and have to admit the sale prices were my main reason with going for these items. I understand there have been recent articles mentioning TP-Link and security risks, so I’m thinking if I should consider returning these, and upping my budget to go for ubiquity? The AP would only be like $30 more for an equivalent, so that’s negligible, but a switch that meets my needs is about 1.6x more, however still only has 2 SFP+ ports, while I need 3 at absolute minimum.
I’m generally happy with the performance, however there is a really annoying bug where if I reboot a device, the switch drops down to 1G speed instead of 10G, and I have to tinker with the settings or reboot the switch to get 10G working again. This is true for the OPNSense uplink, my NAS and workstation. Same thing happened with the 3008F, and support threads on the forums have not been helpful.
In any case, any opinions of switching to ubiquity would be worth it?
I’ve got 4 Omada APs and a virtual controller. There was a bug I experienced where a Google home mini could initiate a broadcast storm. TP-Link got me in touch with engineers very quickly and they fixed the bug in less than a week.
I can’t recommend unifi more. I moved into the ecosystem about 10 years ago with a USG and AP.
I run UCG with 3 WiFi APs at home and about 100+ devices, Inc 4 servers and 2 NAS.
Never have issues and it keeps up to date.
I have a separate WiFi for the guest house that is isolated and speed limited.
For a while I ran a controller to manage my home and my parent’s farm network, they have a Starlink into Express with 2 U6LR and loco wireless bridge to cover 1KM of farmland with pretty impressive speed WiFi.
I typically take an express on holidays with me now which vpns home to keep our lan where we go, I just need hotel LAN for the WAN.
As somebody who runs Ubiquity UniFi gear, it’s all flash and very little substance. Its dashboard will dazzle you with charts that either aren’t accurate, aren’t meaningful, or are generally unhelpful. It has a “new” (half a decade old now) and classic interface you can choose between, but neither interface gives you access to every setting you’ll need. I still to this day find myself swapping between them.
If you just need basic devices to make packets go, they do the job. But an average day in the life of a UniFi-enjoyer consists of things like trying to troubleshoot some kind of network issue only to find that the data collected by the devices doesn’t mathematically make sense, so you go to the UniFi forums just to find out it’s a bug that’s existed for years and has never been resolved. And on days like that, I find myself wishing I had something less flashy that would just allow me to see what’s going on with my network, accurately.
If a security flaw is discovered and patched, it is a good sign the manufacturer is standing by their product and providing support. AFAIK, tp link does push regular fw updates for their omada gear. I’ve had two in the last month.
In your case, I’d open a support ticket with that issue and see what tp link thinks directly. If you don’t like their reply or are ignored, you will have your answer on whether or not you should switch.
I migrated from OPNSense + 3 omada EAPs + two omada switches to a full Unifi system + UDMP Max, feel free to ask away.
Mostly I was tired with the bugs both for Omada (sometimes I had to restart the switch to change the VLAN on a port bc just changing it in the controller didn’t work; yeah) and OPNSense (OSS vs proprietary complaints in general about “it just werks”).
Unifi really has come a long way, they have proper switch ACLs, real BGP (!!!) by you just uploading whatever frr.conf you want, policy based routing, and more stuff that I can’t remember.
It’s not perfect but I would say it’s very good value for money.
I’m in the (long) process of migrating a mix of PFsense + Tplink switches + Aruba Instant On APs to a fully unifi infrastructure. Even with the mix of devices, my network has been way more solid than ever with a Unifi Gateway Ultra, a few NanoHD APs (still mixed with some Arubas) and 1 unifi switch assisted by the rest of the tplinks.
I should finish the migration next week, no regrets.
The level and ease of control I have now would not have been possible with the previous infrastructure.
If you can still return the Omada devices, I suggest you do and go Unifi.
You can try seeing if you can set the speed/duplex of NIC/ports manually if auto-detection keeps getting it wrong.
Unifi I like the APs for mesh & multiple SSID+vlans but I keep them on dedicated vlan with zero internet access because I don’t trust that I properly followed instructions to disable opted in analytics/telemetry. The mgmt software is alright but new UI wastes a lot of space. The PoE switch was alright until it stopped being able to keep a config last year. USG router I kept less than a year because it was too slow with any useful features enabled. I’ve glanced around at replacement APs here & there but pretty much waiting until I have more wifi 7 compatible devices and that’ll be another couple years.
I actually tried this as my second step in trouble shooting, the first being using different ports.
In the non-omada management software, it defaults to 10G, and if the devices is on before the switch it negotiates 10G correctly and works at full speed (tested with iperf3). As soon as any of the 10G connected devices is rebooted, I’m back to 1G. To fix it, I then have to set the port to 1G with flow control on, apply changes, save config, refresh page, change to 10G with flow control off, apply, save config and it goes back to 10G again. Alternatively I can reboot their switch and it’s fine again.
In Omada its the same, fewer steps to get there but I have to sometimes do it 2-3 times before it works.
Same issue with both 10G TP-Link switches, so I’m thinking it might be the SFP. Using Intel SFP+ with FS optical cables. I’m using a DAC for the uplink from the 10G switch to my unmanaged 2.5G switch, and that doesn’t have the problem of dropping, always works max speed.
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I’ve got 4 Omada APs and a virtual controller. There was a bug I experienced where a Google home mini could initiate a broadcast storm. TP-Link got me in touch with engineers very quickly and they fixed the bug in less than a week.
I can’t recommend unifi more. I moved into the ecosystem about 10 years ago with a USG and AP.
I run UCG with 3 WiFi APs at home and about 100+ devices, Inc 4 servers and 2 NAS.
Never have issues and it keeps up to date.
I have a separate WiFi for the guest house that is isolated and speed limited.
For a while I ran a controller to manage my home and my parent’s farm network, they have a Starlink into Express with 2 U6LR and loco wireless bridge to cover 1KM of farmland with pretty impressive speed WiFi.
I typically take an express on holidays with me now which vpns home to keep our lan where we go, I just need hotel LAN for the WAN.
As somebody who runs Ubiquity UniFi gear, it’s all flash and very little substance. Its dashboard will dazzle you with charts that either aren’t accurate, aren’t meaningful, or are generally unhelpful. It has a “new” (half a decade old now) and classic interface you can choose between, but neither interface gives you access to every setting you’ll need. I still to this day find myself swapping between them.
If you just need basic devices to make packets go, they do the job. But an average day in the life of a UniFi-enjoyer consists of things like trying to troubleshoot some kind of network issue only to find that the data collected by the devices doesn’t mathematically make sense, so you go to the UniFi forums just to find out it’s a bug that’s existed for years and has never been resolved. And on days like that, I find myself wishing I had something less flashy that would just allow me to see what’s going on with my network, accurately.
Meh, I like my udm.
I use some of the features, but mostly it just works, and it’s debian under the hood so I just ssh in and unfuck whatever needs unfucking.
It’s vastly closer to a hand-built setup than anything else, and you can spend less time worrying about security.
If a security flaw is discovered and patched, it is a good sign the manufacturer is standing by their product and providing support. AFAIK, tp link does push regular fw updates for their omada gear. I’ve had two in the last month.
In your case, I’d open a support ticket with that issue and see what tp link thinks directly. If you don’t like their reply or are ignored, you will have your answer on whether or not you should switch.
I migrated from OPNSense + 3 omada EAPs + two omada switches to a full Unifi system + UDMP Max, feel free to ask away.
Mostly I was tired with the bugs both for Omada (sometimes I had to restart the switch to change the VLAN on a port bc just changing it in the controller didn’t work; yeah) and OPNSense (OSS vs proprietary complaints in general about “it just werks”).
Unifi really has come a long way, they have proper switch ACLs, real BGP (!!!) by you just uploading whatever frr.conf you want, policy based routing, and more stuff that I can’t remember.
It’s not perfect but I would say it’s very good value for money.
I’m in the (long) process of migrating a mix of PFsense + Tplink switches + Aruba Instant On APs to a fully unifi infrastructure. Even with the mix of devices, my network has been way more solid than ever with a Unifi Gateway Ultra, a few NanoHD APs (still mixed with some Arubas) and 1 unifi switch assisted by the rest of the tplinks.
I should finish the migration next week, no regrets.
The level and ease of control I have now would not have been possible with the previous infrastructure.
If you can still return the Omada devices, I suggest you do and go Unifi.
You can try seeing if you can set the speed/duplex of NIC/ports manually if auto-detection keeps getting it wrong.
Unifi I like the APs for mesh & multiple SSID+vlans but I keep them on dedicated vlan with zero internet access because I don’t trust that I properly followed instructions to disable opted in analytics/telemetry. The mgmt software is alright but new UI wastes a lot of space. The PoE switch was alright until it stopped being able to keep a config last year. USG router I kept less than a year because it was too slow with any useful features enabled. I’ve glanced around at replacement APs here & there but pretty much waiting until I have more wifi 7 compatible devices and that’ll be another couple years.
I actually tried this as my second step in trouble shooting, the first being using different ports.
In the non-omada management software, it defaults to 10G, and if the devices is on before the switch it negotiates 10G correctly and works at full speed (tested with iperf3). As soon as any of the 10G connected devices is rebooted, I’m back to 1G. To fix it, I then have to set the port to 1G with flow control on, apply changes, save config, refresh page, change to 10G with flow control off, apply, save config and it goes back to 10G again. Alternatively I can reboot their switch and it’s fine again.
In Omada its the same, fewer steps to get there but I have to sometimes do it 2-3 times before it works.
Same issue with both 10G TP-Link switches, so I’m thinking it might be the SFP. Using Intel SFP+ with FS optical cables. I’m using a DAC for the uplink from the 10G switch to my unmanaged 2.5G switch, and that doesn’t have the problem of dropping, always works max speed.