I should probably move off of the deployment that I’ve got right now at some point, but what are people currently using for home automation? Is anyone running a newer version of HA that thinks it’s not actually that bad?
I believe your characterization of the developers is unfair. This appears to be an isolated incident by a single developer, and to take that and paint a picture of the entire team as dickholes isn’t right. I’m not even sure judging this individual by his worst day is fair, but that is up to you.
I used OpenHab a few years ago and remember it being way more fiddly with very varying integration quality. it didn’t help that it was based on OSGi packages (the complex mess that Eclipse IDE is also based on), which I don’t much care for.
i only recently starte with HA and found it much easier to use and tweak.
But I also saw some stubbornness by the devs. In my case related to oauth/third party authentication, which they claimed was “enterprise interests trying to corrupt a community project” (I’m paraphrasing) instead of good security practice of centralising the authentication in a homelab.
I understand both frustrations. I still run HA, and with a few addons, namely VSCode, ESPHome, and Node Red, it’s a very serviceable solution, and I don’t think anything else comes close. The config is still YAML for the most part, but you do have to go through a lot of GUI to get to edit the individual elements. That’s for sure not as nice, but I wouldn’t want to set up my complicated home theater automation on any other system.
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I believe your characterization of the developers is unfair. This appears to be an isolated incident by a single developer, and to take that and paint a picture of the entire team as dickholes isn’t right. I’m not even sure judging this individual by his worst day is fair, but that is up to you.
I’m very happily running openhab!
I used OpenHab a few years ago and remember it being way more fiddly with very varying integration quality. it didn’t help that it was based on OSGi packages (the complex mess that Eclipse IDE is also based on), which I don’t much care for.
i only recently starte with HA and found it much easier to use and tweak.
But I also saw some stubbornness by the devs. In my case related to oauth/third party authentication, which they claimed was “enterprise interests trying to corrupt a community project” (I’m paraphrasing) instead of good security practice of centralising the authentication in a homelab.
I understand both frustrations. I still run HA, and with a few addons, namely VSCode, ESPHome, and Node Red, it’s a very serviceable solution, and I don’t think anything else comes close. The config is still YAML for the most part, but you do have to go through a lot of GUI to get to edit the individual elements. That’s for sure not as nice, but I wouldn’t want to set up my complicated home theater automation on any other system.