I second this. I didn’t understand that until…you know, like you install the latest python or something and then your website is proof! Gone. Dockerization gives it a little bit of stability.

You’re right. I was just trying something different. My thinking was…hmm I don’t need a full SMTP IMAP system, Thunderbird can do that. So I searched and found a dockerized Thunderbird. But it turns out to be an idiotic implementation. Why would I install a full OS system to VNC into it to use an app inside of it. But maybe that’s easier for some people than to try and come up with a better way to send and receive authenticated emails?

I just posted this latest email about a traffic violation apparently. It’s just a scam. A fantastic scam too.

But then I don’t get all the previous mail forwarded. I have to go get zip files and such.

I’m going to try using round cube. If it can go into my own SMTP and IMAP it should be able to go into Google’s. But how do I archive/retrieve emails so they live only on my server after extraction from Google. I want to keep IMAP but not share my IMAP folders with Google.

This was the biggest let down ever this weekend!

I think I’m going to set up my mx record and get docker mail server setup. It’s not very clear what I can actually do. Like I don’t need an alias. Mostly what I want is to send and receive emails without Gmail in the middle asking for money and scaring the shit out of me with deleting emails, archiving, loosing fidelity, whatever they do. I can come up with 15gigs of free space on my server a bizillion times over, I don’t need that heartache in my life. This sort of blackmail should be totally illegal. I consider my self a savvy person but damn, this is hard. Now imagine my mom or my wife or even my kids. It’s fucked that we can’t escape the G grip easily now that everything revolves around email authentication. It’s a tax on everything… banking, joining a forum, keeping pictures from your phone hacked up. Everything! Gmail has got to go.

Here’s a good example of why I’m getting out of Gmail:

https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/encrypted-email-service-ctemplar-announces-closure

Since the government already has their sights on breaking them up, it would be a good idea to GTFO way before they implode:

I’ve found some interesting options here, but everyone wants to own your data. Just put it all in our servers, c’mon! It’s free or low price, we’re you centric and not as centric…

https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/migration-away-from-gmail-to-another-free-service-with-imap/15297/2

Sure. But I want my stuff in my basement server and not in their basement server 😭.

Looks good but it’s basically another place for my emails to be be stuck at for decades. Maybe I’ll look at the way they route email.

It’s an easy fix, if I and everyone else can’t setup our own servers safely, then why use email at all? Just stop using email and let Gmail add a few thousand more hoops…portggf, sspf, dkjg, Chddth, Chat-GPT. Whatever they want so it is super super “safe”. The rest of us, are we stupid? What about this message? How come this is easy? Setup my own instance and bam I can talk to other people with very little spam I literally have to work to get any attention at all on the fediverse. Why isn’t there a file/text sending app for the fediverse yet? Or maybe there’s one and I just haven’t seen it yet?

I hear you. However I’m a practical person. I understand that spam has made it difficult for everyone to use email. How can I put this. Basically I got a ton of emails trapped in Google servers. I like the idea that someone proposed of using paperless since I already use that. But also I guess email is worthless so I shouldn’t keep trying? Maybe you’re right. It’s time for email to not be used. Any suggestions for what I should use instead of email which are a few clicks and done?

In the end, I want to have my emails self hosted from my house. Meaning that I can go to my local computers or my phone locally or remotely to the mailu interface, I can send and receive emails using my user1@mysite.com email and none of that email ends up on a Gmail or protonmail server stuck there forever. I can’t download all my Gmail to Thunderbird on my computer because then my phone would not have access to it. So to me that just means that I need to host the email server at home, but how to safely access it is the ideal solution.

I back up every morning to get to work and every afternoon to get back home lol

No matter what I try I keep getting a 404 error. I’m taking now the shotgun approach and changing the yml file copy paste from anyone and anything out there that has ever reported a successful configuration LOL. I lost all hope. Installing Traefik is a Total undeniable PITA.

The first thing is that the documentation is all over the place like a rainbow of letters just threw up into the Internet.

Hey here’s a configuration that works! – api.insecure! .nah! It’s – “ap.insecure”!.. nah you have to add $ to every letter on Wednesday and then wait for the _ and press *** three times and hit enter the word not the keyboard key but the font has to be in bold and you have to use an old IMAC.

Guys your software is shit if no one can install it. This is my third weekend trying stuff to get it to run. I got it to work one time. In fact it does probably run but I just can’t get to the damned dashboard… Is it localip.dashboard.com? Is it dashboard.ip:8080/username?

Frustrated 🥴.