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Might be worth to open up an issue on Github or a thread on Discord. I haven’t tested pipewiresrc but there’s probably some clue in the Wolf logs. Besides, have you mounted the host XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, passed the right env variables and so on?

For streaming the host desktop Sunshine might be a better fit btw…


Is each “game entry” in moonlight a shared instance?

Quite the opposite, at the moment each Moonlight client will have a completely isolated session and they can play different games. This obviously defeats co-op which is something that I’d like to work on by adding proper user management and a remote UI in the next release.

How would I go about making a generic linux desktop from a given Linux distro?

In our latest images we have default support for Sway, you could easily expand that base Dockeer image with all the apps you need or make a different image with the DE that you’d like to use. The project is very open ended and only a few base components are needed in order for any image to be streamed to a remote client.


Sounds like this is exactly what this is capable of: you run Wolf on one beefy machine, and then you connect to it from multiple clients to play games or run a full desktop remotely!


As others have pointed out below it’s going to run multiple separated instances of Steam with the limitations that Valve impose (there’s not much we can do there). This project is not limited to Steam though, you could easily run another session from a different device with something like Lutris or Pegasus.


It does! It’ll automatically create new virtual displays on demand when a new client connects and it’ll match the client resolution and framerate.


Great questions!

Did you look into memory deduplication?

For the Steam library I suppose? There’s been some discussions around it both in Discord and Github #83 #69 It’s something that I should definitely research further but I’d really like to address it even if it’s just something that might be done outside of our container… Would you like to help us?

Is client software sunshine or custom software?

Wolf is an implementation of a full Moonlight backend from scratch; there’s has been many reasons for this but mostly it’s because Sunshine has a lot of global and intertwined state and it would be very hard to add support for multiple independent users. I try to contribute upstream where possible; for example I’ve helped merging our custom library for virtual inputs so that users of Sunshine could also benefit from the new virtual joypad implementation and support for Gyro, Acceleration and so on…


Games on Whales - Stream multiple desktops and games from a single host
After 3 years in the making I'm excited to announce the launch of [Games on Whales](https://games-on-whales.github.io/), an innovative open-source project that revolutionizes virtual desktops and gaming. Our mission is to enable multiple users to stream different content from a single machine, with full HW acceleration and low latency. With Games on Whales, you can: - **Multi-user**: Share a single remote host hardware with friends or colleagues, each streaming their own content (gaming, productivity, or anything else!) - **Headless**: Create virtual desktops on demand, with automatic resolution and FPS matching, without the need for a monitor or dummy plug - **Advanced Input Support**: Enjoy seamless control with mouse, keyboard, and joypads, including Gyro and Acceleration support (a first in Linux!) - **Low latency**: Uses the Moonlight protocol to stream content to a wide variety of supported clients. - **Linux and Docker First**: Our curated Docker images include popular applications like Steam, Firefox, Lutris, Retroarch, and more! - **Fully Open Source**: MIT licensed, and we welcome contributions from the community. Interested in how this works under the hood? You can read more about it in our [developer guide](https://games-on-whales.github.io/wolf/stable/dev/how-it-works.html) or deep dive into the [code](https://github.com/games-on-whales/wolf).
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It’s not internet facing and no port is opened, all it does is fire up a notification if/when something doesn’t reply.

Even in the unlikely scenario that someone gain access to it (nobody did in the last ~4 years) that means that my VPN is already compromised and I’ve got bigger problems to worry about.


Mine is in the picture: **1544 days and counting**! It's an EC2 nano instance that's used only as a monitor for a few services that are running inside my VPN. It has served me well over all these years! ---- EDIT: before everyone starts screaming about "security": It’s not internet facing and no port is opened, all it does is fire up a notification if/when something doesn’t reply. Even in the unlikely scenario that someone gain access to it that means that my VPN is already compromised, and I’ve got bigger problems to worry about.
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Thanks for all the tips, this is exactly the kind of things I was looking for that I wasn’t thinking about. I guess I’ll go with 3/4U since it looks like it’s the easy solution to fit everything in.

The last question I’ve got is about the Sata backplate that some of them have in the front, is that compatible with any home PSU/Motherboard or does that require some special HW? I guess for SAS I would need an additional PCI card in order to support it, right?


Thanks, that’s very helpful! I couldn’t find much on Amazon but I can find some different retailers with better googling…
I guess the fans can be easily replaced since they seem normal-sized but now I’m wondering about the PSU, it looks like only some 4U can accommodate an ATX power supply but that would limit my choice immensely.
Are there any “server shaped” PSUs (how are they called?) that are also silent?


How to prettify an homelab into a rack?
I've turned a couple of old desktop computers into my homelab. They are currently "stacked" on top of each other with a Raspy, router and switch on top and a UPS on the side. To my eye this looks "pretty enough" but it doesn't score high on the Wife Approval Rating and I would really like to turn it into a "pretty" little rack. Hence, the question: how to do it? Which parts should I get? I'm mainly having a hard time finding some kind of "rack case" so that I can insert my desktop HW into it; should I buy a server and strip it out? Just a few more info: - My homelab is extremely silent (since it sits close to my desk) and I would very much like to keep it this way. I absolutely don't want server fans screaming at me all the time. - It would be cool to have a "NAS like" enclosure for the NAS drives that currently sit inside a normal desktop case. - I'm UK based, I know in the US might be easier to get all this stuff, but any tip or help is highly appreciated anyway.
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Ooops that was a lazy leftover from my side, sorry about that. Thanks for letting me know, I’ll fix it soon!


It’s probably failing to parse the config.toml file, although that should usually print a proper error line. Have you tried deleting the file or copy and paste the default?


Releasing Wolf: Stream virtual desktops and games running in Docker
Hello everyone! 👋 For the past year I had fun messing around with Docker containers, Moonlight/Sunshine and HW acceleration; so much so that I've ended up building a Gamestream server from scratch! The basic underlying idea is to allow the followings: - Share a single server (possibly headless but doesn't have to be) with multiple users - by creating virtual HW accelerated desktops - whilst keeping remote mouse, keyboard and controllers completely separated - with low latency It's still rough around the edges, and it needs more testing from the community; if you want to check it out, here you can [read the docs](https://games-on-whales.github.io/wolf/stable/) and here's the [Github repo](https://github.com/games-on-whales/wolf).
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